| I'd like to clarify something you wrote about what I said.
You said, "Now, another implied that the title Son of man is only referring
to humanity. Well, that is not altogether true."
Matthew 16: 27, 28 – For the Son of humanity comes in the glory of His Father with His angels; and then he gives each according to his acts. Amen! I word to you, Some standing here never no way taste death until they see the Son of humanity coming in His sovereignty. I was not saying that the Son of man refers to humanity only. I understand His dual nature as being wholly man and being wholly God, Jesus Messiah. When I said, "I believe this refers to humanity," I was not referring to the term Son of humanity. I was referring to what Jesus said when He said, "Some standing here never no way taste death..." Those standing there I believe refers to humanity itself, not the actual men/women standing there. Then I noticed in Revelation: Revelation 1: 7, 10 – Behold, he comes with clouds: and every eye sees Him and those who pierced Him: and all scions of the earth chop because of Him. Yes, Amen... I became in Spirit in the day of God; and heard behind me a mega voice as of a trumpet, John records that every eye sees Him (which means there are those that are physically alive that see Him with their eyes when He returns) and those who pierced Him. Those who pierced Him can literally mean the Romans or the Jews, or both. Or figuratively speaking it could simply be referring to humanity itself, in general. It can generally be said the humanity staked Him to the cross. After all, it was for our sins that He was staked, even though He was yet sinless. It was humanity that put Him there and all humanity will see Him at His return. That's why I believe He is referring to humanity when He says that "some standing here never no way taste death..." |
I think it is clear that He referred to the very people to whom he spoke,
and not humanity in general, since he said the words, "some standing here."
Those words would not be there if He was speaking of humanity in general.
| "I still don't agree at all that Jesus' next "coming" is the Rapture. The Rapture is when the 10x10 thousands of saints are taken up to be with Him. The rapture is not a coming, but a receiving. After which the 10x10 thousands are found in the midst of the throne, and are distinct from the billion Tribulation Martyrs and the 144k Israelites. The return of Jesus is with the Raptured saints (Rev 19:14) who had been with Him all throughout the Tribulation period." |
Jesus is coming for the church in the rapture.
I may be wrong, but I assume that you believe the following to refer to the rapture...
Matthew 24:37-41 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.If you do not believe that is the rapture, then like me, perhaps, you believe is the wrath of God. The only thing that would differ then, with you and I, is that I believe that was the wrathful coming of the lamb in 70 AD upon Jerusalem.
Do you believe that this speaks of the rapture?
Matthew 24:48-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.Is this the rapture?
Mark 13:35-36 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.He is coming to receive. So it is error to say that it is not a coming, but a receiving. The rapture is BOTH a coming and receiving. He comes to receive the
Do you not believe this is the rapture?
1Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.As far as I understand pretrib doctrine, these references are said to be the rapture, and they all mention the Lord's COMING.
Maybe you have a different pretrib doctrine than everyone else does.